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8: The Mormon Proposition
Filmmaker and ex-Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints member Reed Cowan examines that church's nationwide efforts to prevent the legalization of gay marriage - including California's Proposition 8, which was passed by voters in 2008. Confidential church documents, statements by high-ranking church officials and other sources detail 30 years of efforts to turn back gay rights, particularly by the Mormon-sponsored National Organization for Marriage.
Release : | 2010 |
Rating : | 7.1 |
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Crew : | Director, Director, |
Cast : | Dustin Lance Black |
Genre : | Documentary |
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What a society we live in! It is unacceptable for a religious institution to take a stand on issues of morality in a democratic nation, but perfectly all right to slander said institution by omitting some facts, distorting others, and blatantly making others up. Yes, this waste of celluloid does all three in abundance. At first I was going to list all the examples here, but I would have gone far over the 1,000 word limit and lost peoples' interest. And now I see I can't include urls either. Dang. Well, just some legitimate research of your own will reveal that many of the claims made regarding LDS doctrine, actions, and quotes are distorted or, disturbingly often, outright false. The Foundation for Apologetic Information & Research has compiled an extensive list of these on its wiki, as well as many articles about the Church and homosexuality. Of course it's biased, but seeing as this "documentary" is not only biased but completely dishonest, anyone who has seen the one and is still interested in real facts should check out the other. The writers also failed to mention several pertinent details. Now, I don't expect anyone to discuss all the evidence that undermines their ideology, but there's a solid line between not doing that, and deliberately obscuring the truth to paint an inaccurate picture. In this case, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is portrayed as the big, bad villain stepping on a minority group's civil rights.Never mind that it has consistently supported employment and housing rights for those with same-sex attractions even when the Utah legislature itself has not. Never mind that the organization itself did not donate a penny (btw, the rumor that the Church is losing its tax-exempt status is a myth) and that the members acted of their own free will and not all chose to donate. Never mind that its effort was made as part of a coalition including Catholics, evangelicals, Protestants, Orthodox Jews, and Muslims, and that there were 10 million Catholics and Protestants (each) in California as opposed to 800,000 Mormons. (Is it acceptable in our society to slander those religions? I didn't think so. What makes the Mormons different?) Many more important facts have been omitted, which have been listed by Kevin Hamilton and included in a wonderful article by Orson Scott Card. TL,DR: This openly deceitful propaganda piece is a waste of your time, but if you must watch it, make sure to learn about reality's side of the story.
I didn't even watch the show and just from the preview I can see things are taken out of context and clips are from anti literature. If people actually believe this kind of one side garbage they should be ashamed. Besides I think there are a few more denominations that spoke out for Prop 8 and for what they believe in. Why single out the Mormons, talk about racism, take a look in the mirror. Seems like the film focuses on money that the Church spent on proposition 8. Who cares, unless your paying the church out of your own pocket what's it matter to you. Beside the receipts they show could easily be falsified or going to some charity. It's funny how people will believe anything they see on a screen. What a joke, it's to bad people even have to be like this just accept that people are different and accept then for who they are, right or wrong.
Cowan's compelling film-making makes this a one-of-a-kind look into the dirty politics of religious groups who have an axe to grind with people they disapprove of. What I found most true to life about the film was that it did not paint all Mormons as anti-gay or hateful, but it exposed the level of power the Morg has over it's members, and how the leaders of the church are willing to exert that power to their own ends. It was clear that immense pressure was put on all LDS church members regardless of their personal feelings. This is an outrageous hypocrisy by a church that claims such strong beliefs in a person's right to free will and agency.I am tired to seeing everyone call this film "biased." Simply taking a stand on an issue does not make it biased - it does not unfairly or inaccurately represent the opposing argument or its proponents; that would make it biased. The IRS has listed the LDS church on a list of organizations up to have their tax-exempt status revoked because of their flagrant violation of tax laws in connection with the Yes on 8 campaign. This was Cowan's main point - that the LDS church did wrong in giving so much money, and now the IRS is validating the claims Cowan showed in the film.I highly recommend this film, and if you like this I also recommend Kirby Dick's Outrage, Sandi Simcha Dubowski's Trembling Before G-d, and Daniel G. Karslake's For the Bible Tells Me So.
Its so obvious a hate film. And cowardly. But never the less ingenious to change the focus from "right or wrong" to accusations. Funny how you haven't heard about your fake government advising churches what to preach but some idiot makes a movie about how horrible it is for a church to lead its members. The majority of Americans are Conservative wither you like it or not. It is pathetic and weak and typical of liberals to be loud and to attack one group for standing for there beliefs when the majority of Americans have the same belief. Obama has emboldened you anti-Americans...... but the sleeping giant has awakened and America WILL BE RESTORED.